Please Welcome...Marc
Schooley


What a joy to have
Christian speculative fiction author Marc Schooley as our interview guest
this month here at WhereTheMapEnds.com.
In his own words, Marc
is "the
'not so much science, fiction writer who generally writes and reads
nonfiction, so if I can do it, anyone can' author of The Dark Man, and a man who values
the Bible above all other books, and as the standard by which they all
ought to be measured."
Marc
is one of three Christian novelists whose books comprise the second
release list at Marcher Lord Press. Marc's debut novel, The
Dark Man, is hard to classify, but here's a try. It's a near-future
psychological thriller in a dystopian America about a man on his own
Damascas Road, who flies helicopter gunships and talks to a wooden block puzzle.
Weirded out yet? It sounds bizarre, and it is, but it
is tremendous. The Dark Man was the first book I acquired for the
second list at Marcher Lord Press. I was utterly engaged by the story, the
writing, and the characters. (The Dark Man released April 1, 2009.)
Marc describes The Dark Man as possessing "a wealth
of metaphorical undertow, surface-level abstraction, popular and cultural
element interplay, and most importantly, orthodox theological themes." And bombs and stuff.
Marc is funny, intelligent, encouraging, and endlessly patient.
He also works at a company in Houston that supports
NASA, so the technology and landmarks in The Dark Man (a
near-future thriller set in Houston) ring especially true.
So without further ado, here's the
interview.
WhereTheMapEnds:
Catch us up with you. What
have you been up to lately?
Marc Schooley: I’ve
been administering subcontracts for highly complex space flight hardware
and systems for the Space Shuttle, International Space Station, and new
Constellation program. It’s consumed a great deal of time lately, but it’s
always worth it when a system you’ve had a part in functions well in
space.
Also,
when the new missions take off for Mars and the Moon, it’ll be an exciting
time knowing I’ve been able to play a role in NASA mission
success.
I
have a great family, even though I’m demonstrably more normal* than them,
and we try to spend as much time together as
possible.
*
I’m
a fairly normal guy. Well, allow me to qualify that. I’m uber-normal in
the context of my family, which regularly hosts normalcy contests. I’m the
currently undefeated and reigning normalcy
champion.
WhereTheMapEnds:
O...kay. [grin] So, Marc, Mr. Normal,
what is your favorite
speculative novel of all time (Christian or secular) and why is that your
favorite?
Marc Schooley:
I
am nearly a CS Lewis completist, and have a good and growing collection of
older editions of all his works. I would categorize many of his works as
speculative, although grounded with mere Christian doctrine. Some of my
favorites are the Great Divorce,
The Pilgrim’s Regress, the Perelandra space trilogy, Screwtape, and really anything he
has written.
I
admire his wit and use of metaphor, his ability to insert Christian
doctrine seamlessly into any context, and his unabashed acceptance of
Christianity in its full rigour.
Anything
written by Poe works for me, and I suppose Hamlet and Macbeth
qualify as speculative, with their ghosts and
witches.
Now to embarrass myself: I love both John Carter of
Mars and Tarzan. Why they haven’t filmed John Carter is beyond me. MS
Quixote thinks that Stephen King is the premier fiction writer of our
generation. [Editor's note: MS Quixote is Marc's
mischievous alter ego.] I think he fancies himself chasing towers rather than
windmills.
WhereTheMapEnds:
What
made you
want to write Christian speculative fiction?
Marc Schooley:
I
wrote my Master’s thesis on the Problem of Evil (POE) as experienced
through the eyes of two used car salesman (who better to discuss the POE,
right?) transported to an allegorical underworld by the devil. There, they
entered into a game of chess with the devil for their very lives, the
pieces each representing, and subsequently ushering in, a facet of the
POE.
It
was great fun, and, in fact, an experience that spurred me to write
The Dark Man. I am forever indebted to Professor Craig White,
a.k.a. “the Captain,” my thesis advisor, who pushed me in the direction of
writing fiction.
WhereTheMapEnds:
How was your first idea for a Christian
speculative novel received (by anyone: spouse, friends, parents, agent,
publisher, readers, reviewers, etc.)?
Marc Schooley:
Of
the only four people that I’m aware of who have read the book, or have
more than a vague idea of what it’s about, the results are promising thus
far. NOTE: we’re not sure yet if MS Quixote counts as a fifth, or is
actually the author himself. More on this as the investigation
unfolds.
I
invite you to read the book, dear reader. If you think it's good, write me
and let me know why. If you think it's bad, write me and let me know why.
If you think it’s mediocre, write me and let me know why. If you think it
was halfway between good and mediocre, wr— Well, you get the
point.
WhereTheMapEnds:
What
is your favorite speculative genre to read? To write? If they’re
different, talk about that.
Marc
Schooley:
To
be honest, my favorite speculative genre is nonfiction, specifically
relating to philosophy and theology. There’s a wealth of speculative
material in both of these disciplines, and I believe they provide much
speculative fiction with ideas. Interestingly, it’s probably a two-way
street.
Take
consciousness, for instance. It’s something we experience firsthand every
day; yet it’s one of the most enigmatic and elusive phenomena known, and
extremely problematic to define and describe philosophically with any
degree of certainty. Thus, there’s a wealth of speculative material
written regarding this subject.
Now,
when you pick up a speculative novel, or any novel for that matter, you’re
ushered, normatively (there’s that word again) into a foreign
consciousness. It’s an art form that probes the meaning and feel of consciousness, and
provides a medium with which to experience another’s thoughts immediately,
if only vicariously.
Several
of The Dark Man’s characters
reveal a facsimile of their “stream of consciousness,” which is evaluated
in the context of a Christian worldview. I hope you enjoy it. I know I
did. And did I mention there’s plenty of bombs, and love, and stuff, in
case that’s what you’d rather read about?
The
same concept holds with regard to the greater questions in life: Who am I?
Where did I come from? Where am I going? I believe speculative nonfiction
and fiction both play a role in exploring these great questions,
subordinate to Scripture, obviously, and often the arbitrary lines between
the two disciplines are blurred to obscurity.
You’ll
most certainly encounter these questions in The Dark Man, and you’ll connect
with other’s thoughts and perceptions in relation to these questions and
others, and hopefully your own conceptions will be honed through this
interaction.
WhereTheMapEnds:
Yikes, I feel like
I'm earning a master's degree myself, just listening to you! What do
you think
Christian speculative fiction writing and/or publishing will
look like in three years? Five years? Ten
years?
Marc Schooley:
This
is something that worries me. There’s always the temptation to desert the
Christian faith for success. I think this is fairly common in Christian
music these days, and I’d hate to see the same thing happen with Christian
writing. I think writing is more insulated, as it’s less image-driven,
than music, but the potential always exists for trouble, as with
everything else in life.
This
is not to say that anyone who writes a secular book is non-Christian, or
that Christians should only write overtly Christian books. Far from it.
It’s more like saying that we shouldn’t get to the point where we equate
Jesus with Holden Caulfield, or approve of those who
do.
WhereTheMapEnds:
Yes, that's a danger. Any kind of success can breed as many problems as it
solves. There's always the risk of believing your own positive reviews too
much and deciding you don't need to keep improving. There's also
the risk of believing your negative reviews too much,
and
thus becoming depressed.
All Christians, and especially Christians who
are creative types, must stay grounded in Christ to
maintain
a good balance.
So,
Marc, what
advice would you give to someone who aspires to write and publish
Christian speculative fiction?
Marc Schooley: Write
for the audience of One, as defined in Tip #1 on wherethemapends.com, and have fun. Everything
else is background noise.
WhereTheMapEnds: Good counsel. What’s
the best book or seminar on fiction writing you
know?
Marc
Schooley:
Wherethemapends.com
tips for writers, and the other books Jeff recommends
there.
WhereTheMapEnds: [blushes] Thanks, Marc. (I
promise, I didn't put him up to that!) What’s
the best part about writing and publishing Christian speculative
fiction?
Marc
Schooley: There
are two things. The first is proclaiming the gospel and communicating the
great truths of the Christian faith. If you’re a Christian, you know what
I mean.If you’re not, you need to find
out.
The
second is the experience itself. If you’re writing, don’t miss out on this
part, or exchange it for endless considerations about craft or marketing.
The experience is what counts: getting to know your characters as
if they were real people, sharing their thoughts and feelings, rooting for
them or pulling against
them.
WhereTheMapEnds:
What
writing project(s) are you working on
now?
Marc
Schooley: The
Ring of Nine—tentative
title of the sequel to The Dark
Man.
Mission
Impolitical—tentative
title of a nonfiction work about the church and its involvement in
politics.
On
Atheism—a
novel with nonfiction commentary considering "the new
atheism."
WhereTheMapEnds:
Those
sound terrific. So, Marc, what’s
the best speculative story (Christian or secular, book or otherwise)
you’ve encountered
lately?
Marc
Schooley: You
mean other than the Personifid Invasion, Summa Elvetica, and
Hero, Second Class, right?
Orthodoxy, by GK Chesterton. It’s
not a story, but it’s speculative in its own right. It’s work, but
fruitful labor. I don’t know what took me so long to find it.
Here's
a
quote:
“Of
necessary dogmas and a special creed I shall speak later. But that
transcendentalism by which all men live has primarily the position of the
sun in the sky. We are conscious of it as of a kind of splendid confusion;
it is something both shining and shapeless, at once a blaze and a blur.
But the circle of the moon is as clear and unmistakable, as recurrent and
inevitable, as the circle of Euclid
on a blackboard. For the moon is utterly reasonable; and the moon is the
mother of lunatics and has given to them all her
name.”
WhereTheMapEnds:
Wow.
I'm not sure I know what any of it means, but it sounds good. :-P
So what
else would you like to say to readers of
WhereTheMapEnds?
Marc Schooley: 1
Tim
1:15-17:
"It
is a trustworthy statement, deserving full acceptance, that Christ Jesus
came into the world to save sinners, among whom I am foremost of all. Yet
for this reason I found mercy, so that in me as the foremost, Jesus Christ
might demonstrate His perfect patience as an example for those who would
believe in Him for eternal life. Now to the King eternal, immortal,
invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever.
Amen"
That's
all for this time
What a great interview, huh? Thanks again to Marc
Schooley. Be sure to visit Marc online.
If
you missed the previous months' interviews with other speculative authors,
including Frank Peretti, Jerry Jenkins, Karen
Hancock, Tosca Lee, and Ted
Dekker, you can read them here.
And be sure to come back next month for an interview
with another mover and shaker in the world of Christian speculative
fiction.