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Please Welcome...Wayne Thomas Batson

What a joy to have Christian author
Wayne Thomas Batson as
our interview guest at WhereTheMapEnds.com.
Wayne Thomas Batson is the author of five SpecFic/ Adventure books
including the bestselling trilogy, The Door Within, and new
pirate novels Isle of Swords and Isle of Fire.
He is a lifetime lover of all things fantastic, creepy, and/or
peculiar. He says he writes SpecFic because he believes that deep down, we
all dream of other worlds and long to do something that
matters.
Wayne is an active blogger and online advocate of Christian
fantasy fiction. He was part of the Fantasy Four book tour in the
summer of 2007, and as a result he was given opportunity to be interviewed
on radio (see photo) and on TV as a spokesman for Christian
fantasy.
WhereTheMapEnds: Catch us up
with what's going on in your life.
Wayne Thomas Batson: As
of October 20th [2007], I wrapped up the principal manuscript
of Isle of Fire, the sequel to Isle of Swords. This was
a serious deadline. I had a little more than three months to complete the
work. God came through with the ideas, and I am stoked with the
composition of the story. Should be a fun adventure with
depth.
WhereTheMapEnds: As the boy in Princess Bride so aptly says,
"Murdered by pirates is good." So
what
is your favorite speculative novel of all time (Christian or secular) and
why is that your favorite?
Wayne Thomas Batson:
No
Contest: The Lord of the Rings trilogy. It was my gateway series
to the genre of fantasy, and I reread it every chance I get.
To
me, Tolkien redefined the author’s level of commitment to a story. He
spent decades of his life developing the world map, the cultures, the
unique languages, and histories of all his creations.
I
don’t think we see that as much today because publishers are nervous about
missing “marketing windows.”
What
I mean by that is that publishers rush their authors to be productive,
assigning short deadline periods and quick turnarounds. Publishers also
want series books to be out rapid fire, so that multiple books are out at
the same time. They don’t want to let authors take 1.5-2 years per book
anymore.
That’s
something I really struggle with. I mean, how do you rush creativity?
Still, Tolkien's work stands alone as a lovingly and meticulously crafted
SpecFic tale. Always will be my
favorite.
WhereTheMapEnds: What
made you want to write Christian speculative fiction?
Wayne Thomas Batson: Actually, I don’t write
Christian speculative fiction. I write fiction that is informed by my
identity as a Christian.
I
know that sounds like semantics, but really, it’s not. If I’m a Christian
and a mechanic and I fix your car…was it a Christian repair? If the
manager at the local McDonald's is a Christian and I make a purchase
there, do I get a Christian Happy Meal? See my point?
I
am a Christian and Jesus is everything to me. He is my worldview and my
life. When I write, I pray that He comes shining through. But I am
not
writing just for Christians to read.
I want everyone to be
able to read and enjoy my books on multiple levels: surface and deep.
At the surface, come and
enjoy a heart-pounding adventure in an enchanting realm. But go deeper
than that. See the big questions. Be a thoughtful reader. My thought is,
if I get people asking the questions for which Jesus is the only answer,
then I’ve done
well.
WhereTheMapEnds:
Sounds like a good
plan.
How
was your first idea for a Christian speculative novel received (by anyone:
spouse, friends, parents, agent, publisher, readers, reviewers,
etc.)?
Wayne Thomas Batson:
I
wrote first for my students. I’m a middle school Reading/English teacher,
and I had real trouble finding just the “right” story to go with a certain
lesson. So, I started writing them myself.
The Door Within
books came about because my students challenged me to write an
assignment I had given them. My story was 17 pages written in green ink on
loose leaf paper. My students loved it. They asked me to make it
a movie. That was the spark that led me to keep
writing.
WhereTheMapEnds: Leave it to kids to
recognize talent. I know your young readers enjoy your books so much. It's
great to be able to take that quality that worked so well in the classroom
and "bottle" it in a book that anyone can read. Very cool. So how would
you characterize the current state of Christian speculative fiction
writing and/or
publishing?
Wayne Thomas Batson:
Tentatively Growing. In the last 10 years CBA
publishers published more fantasy than the previous fifty years.
[Editor's note: "CBA" stands for the Christian
Booksellers' Association and is a shorthand way of referring to the
Christian publishing and retailing industry.]
In the last 5 years, we’ve seen more publishers than ever
venturing into fantasy as well. I think we are living in the great
experimental stage for the CBA. If Christians keep buying what Christian
publishers offer, then Christian publishers will continue to publish more.
WhereTheMapEnds: I sure hope you're
right. It's a common misconception that there are simply no good
speculative novels out there from the Christian worldview. I recently
updated my Booklist and
was surprised to find that I have over 400 titles listed there. Imagine a
bookstore or library with all of those books available on the shelf. How
cool would
that
be?
However, I'm also trying to expand the boundaries of
what is available for fans of Christian speculative fiction through my own
publishing company, Marcher Lord Press. If the
Christian publishing industry expands more into speculative fiction, as
you're hoping, we're good. But if not, Marcher Lord Press will be there to
take up
the
slack.
So, Wayne, what
have you seen that encourages you about Christian speculative writing
and/or
publishing?
Wayne Thomas Batson: Speaking personally about my
publisher, Thomas Nelson: I am thrilled that they’ve been willing to
invest so much capital in the production and marketing of my books. They
took a big risk with a first-time author and made a huge
statement by creating breathtaking covers and packaging. The books look
good—and on the shelf, that
matters.
WhereTheMapEnds: It certainly does. Now what
have you seen that discourages or frustrates you about Christian
speculative fiction writing and/or
publishing?
Wayne Thomas Batson: I
am thoroughly frustrated by product placement in both CBA and
ABA
stores. [Editor's note: "ABA" stands for the American
Booksellers' Association and is a shorthand way of referring to the
secular publishing and book retailing industry.]
I
know there are a lot of hands involved in determining where a book goes:
marketers, distributors, branch managers—and even a local clerk can trump
them all by putting a book wherever.
LOL
In
CBA stores, fiction often gets lumped together with nursery rhymes and
Beginner's Bibles. Come on, dude…if you’re a teenager looking for a book,
are you even going to consider something next to A Very Veggie
Christmas?
In
ABA stores,
you often see great Christian SpecFic titles tossed into teeny tiny
“Religious Fiction” sections. Yes, the place where no one sees it. That’s
another reason why I don’t like delineating my work as Christian fiction—if
I do, it’s just that much easier to get thrown in with New Age fiction
or Taoist fiction.
If
I do have Christ’s message to share, the books need to be where people can
see them. You don’t see Phillip Pullman’s books being pulled from
mainstream fiction for a special “Atheistic Fiction” section. Tolkien and
Lewis can be found in both sections—religious and mainstream. Maybe dual
designation is what we should be looking for.
Hmmm…
WhereTheMapEnds: I understand your point and have felt your pain. My
own name for the religious fiction in secular bookstores is Death Row.
However, I don't see this changing in the foreseeable future. Sales reps
from Christian publishing companies meet with the
religion buyers at secular bookstores. What they buy for their
shelves goes on their
shelves.
There are other reasons, too, including the fact that
most Christian publishers do not have enough titles at once that could be
put on the regular Fantasy/SF shelf, for instance. Bookstore chains look
to group books together to better feature them in their promotional pieces
and catalogs. If a Christian publisher wants to be on that shelf but
can't produce 6
such titles to be grouped together for a catalog ad,
it's not going to
happen.
As for atheistic fiction, I see your point there,
too, but there is no full-fledged atheistic publishing industry as there
is with a Christian publishing industry. When they get as big as the CBA
maybe they will
be
segregated.
And I'm afraid the C.S. Lewis/J.R.R. Tolkien argument
is moot. Thier books are now considered
classics and therefore in the public domain in terms of
where they can be
shelved.
Still, I know it's a terrible frustration when you're
writing for a crossover market, hoping to get non-Christians to read your
work, and yet
you are not allowed access to that target readership. Yeah,
that's no fun at
all.
A benefit of marketing on the Internet is that it is,
by definintion,
cross-marketing, cross-platform, and crossover. All kinds of people can see
and buy your book
online.
Okay,
off my soapbox! What
do you think Christian speculative fiction writing and/or publishing will
look like in three years? Five years? Ten
years?
Wayne Thomas Batson: I
think
that depends a lot on local bookstore owners. I’d like to see Christian
bookstores become bookstores again. Devote more floorspace to
books. Advertise your
books. Price your books competitively. Have
contests, signings, readings, youth parties—whatever, but let people know,
“Hey, we have good books
here!”
WhereTheMapEnds: And how about cutting down on the knicknacks and
scented candles and everything else that tells men and teenagers to
stay away? [innocent grin] So, Wayne,
what
advice
would you give to someone who aspires to write and publish Christian
speculative
fiction?
Wayne Thomas Batson: First,
you can do it. If I can, anyone can. God has gifted you uniquely with
creativity and passion for stories. And people always have and always will
love stories.
Second, write.
Stop making excuses. Stop whining. Stop comparing. And write. If your
craft isn’t there yet, take some classes. Read in the genre you love. And
then tell the story you’ve been dying to tell. [Editor's
note: And read and heed all the awesome advice at the Fiction
Writing Tip of the Week
column.]
[Editor's note: Stop making so many
editor's notes,
Jeff.]
[Okay,
sorry.]
[Editor's note: We
apologize again for all the editor's notes. Those responsible for sacking
the people who have just been sacked have been
sacked.]
Third,
t
hink carefully about your intent in writing “Christian fiction.” Do you want
to encourage the faithful? Do you want to convert the masses? What is
the reason you want to do this? Whatever your answer, don’t let the story
suffer. You cannot write a salvation tract, dress it up with elves, and
call it a story. You’ve got to write a compelling story or the message
will
suffer.
WhereTheMapEnds: Good advice, Wayne. So now that Isle of Fire
is done
what
writing project will be next for you?
Wayne Thomas Batson:
Right, I
just finished Isle of Fire, my pirate sequel. But after that,
I’ve got an epic fantasy series that I hope to publish. I’ve been working
on it for several years (in spurts) and it has been on my mind constantly.
New characters, races, plot twists, etc.
But with
this series I’m going to attempt to invoke a little Tolkien: I want to
take my time with these books. I want to develop huge backstories,
cultures, languages, histories. I want the coolest creatures, the most
fully envisioned settings—and the most powerful messages. And that will
take time.
WhereTheMapEnds:
No kidding! Well, we'll all be eager to read it when you finally round the
corner on that project. So tell us what it was like to do the Fantasy Four tour and get to be
on TV as the spokesman for Christian
fantasy.
Wayne Thomas Batson:
The
Fantasy Fiction Tour was a life-changing event. I got to rub elbows with
creative kindred. Christopher Hopper, Bryan Davis, Sharon Hinck and I are
swordbrethren for life. I’m inspired by their faith and hope we can tour
again someday. We met so many kind people on the Tour and are still
learning today about the
impact.
As
far as being a spokesman for Christian Fantasy, whoa, I try not to think
about that in that way. I still don’t know why God wanted to use me for
those incredible opportunities. Front page article in the Washington
Post, National TV with Fox and Friends and now Reuters—it’s
all kind of surreal.
I
hope I made God proud each time, and I hope God will open doors—doors for
new writers in the genre, but also doors for people who harshly prejudge
Christianity.
WhereTheMapEnds: I know He was proud, Wayne. We all were. Thank you
for your time!
That's all for this
time
What a wonderful interview, huh? Thanks again to Wayne
Thomas Batson. Be sure to visit Wayne
online.
If you missed the previous
months' interviews with other speculative authors, including Frank Peretti, Jerry Jenkins, Karen
Hancock, Tosca Lee, and Ted Dekker, you can
read them
here. And be sure to come back next month for an
interview with another mover and shaker in the world of Christian
speculative fiction.
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